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And it's precisely because I had no exposure to these sounds and that I was hearing through an
American "filter" that I had these problems, and I really believe that no amount of listening to
dialogue would have fixed this. But within a few days of spending one hour per day on the FSI P&R
Module, I had no trouble at all with pronunciation, tones, transcribing pinyin, or anything
related.

I agree that for individual sounds you may need some training. However in my view just reading the
pinyin saying that 中 is prounounced zhong does not help in my view. You need to read
explanations on how the sounds are formed in order to get them right. However individual sounds
are not really that important in my view. For tonal languages getting the intonation right is much
more crucial, and for learning that nothing helps but listening and repeating a lot of sentences.
The reason why I dont like tone marks is that I feel they interfer with what you are hearing. In
my view, it is much easier to learn a cantonese sentence by listening to it and imitating it
rather than analyzing the tones in it and worrying that you are getting the tones right on every
syllable.



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You need to read explanations on how the sounds are formed in order to get them right.

I would say you have to hear them. And for some sounds, which you don't have in your native
language, it's not a bad idea to look up how they are formed, in case you struggle. For example,
English natives often have a problem with the U sound in "女", or the throatish H, like in 很.
So were you struggle depends really where you come from.

For the perfection, just keep in mind they most Mandarin speakers are not native speakers
themselfs and also may speak them poorly. That's not an excuse not to learn them well, but you
won't get beaten, or even get "The Look" if you don't get them out perfect.

Everybody learns of course individually, for me tone learning out of context would be too abstract
and I wouldn't remember it anyway. So I just listen and copy the melody of the sentence.

But it's also up to what you like to learn. Learning must be fun, so just do the fun parts that
you really want to do. With fun you learn 3 times the speed. Without the fun you probably learn
never.

Another point, I never think Mandarin is "difficult". Maybe some parts are. But I still prefer to
think "I can do it". Once you think it's "difficult" you have your first internal brain block
excuse not to progress, because it's soooo difficult.












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