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[欧阳江] -

I'm looking for an apartment in some nice area to share with some nice people during my last three
month in Beijing. Most of the time I will probably be working and I wont be in the apartment that
much.

Do you or anyone you know have a vacant room for a desperate laowai, then don't hesitate to
contact me!

Email: stefan.astrand [at.] gmail.com
Cell: 13439236805

Thanks!

/ Stefan



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Hi all:

I have searched the forum and found one post on this topic, but I can't get it to work right. I
have lots of flash cards I've created in ZDT, but I can't figure out how to import them in to
Plecodict in my Treo 650. Please, if anyone has done this and can help me out, I'd really
appreciate it. Thanks.



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Hi,

Have you already exported your cards into the Plecodict format? If you select a category and click
Export, there's a dropdown in the resulting dialog called 'Export format' with a 'plecodict'
option. Then transfer the resulting file to your Treo and import into Plecodict.

Hope that helps.

Chris










mscott101 -

Thanks for the help. Unfortunately, I still can't get it to work. Let me describe my process and
hopefully someone can identify where I'm going wrong.

In ZDT, I am saving whichever category folder that has all of my cards in them as a Plecodict .txt
file to my desktop. From there, I sync my Treo with the computer. I have the Softick Card Export
program and it creates an Removable Disk F: drive in "My Computer" that I understand is the memory
card in my Treo. Inside that F: drive I have three folders that have been there since the first
time I synced: DCIM, IM and PALM. I drag the saved text file into the F: drive, but do not put it
in any of these folders.

Then I open Plecodict, go to flashcards and manage flashcards. In Manage Lists, I click on Import.
Under "From" I change to Text File and Encoding is set to GB-2312. I've also tried UTF-8 and Big5,
but none of them work. The last issue is the file path. What should I be typing in there? Should
it be F:/...and then whatever is the name of the file? The default path is
/Palm/Launcher/flash.txt. It always says that it cannot find the file. Should it be some new path
that leads to my memory card?

Thanks very much to anyone that can help me out here. I really appreciate it.










mscott101 -

OK. I finally got it to import, but what is imported is not what I saved as the flashcard. For
example, I did a test flash card that was Ni Hao. The card that came up on Plecodict was for the
Chinese Communist Party. Definitely not what I had put in. Any idea why this would happen? Thanks.












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Ari 桑 -



Quote:

I have wanted to post about a related topic for a while. For now, let me just say that here in
Beijing, one is exposed to a wide variety of mandarin pronounciations due to the large numbers
that have moved here from 外地 for school and/or work (and I'm not just referring to the migrant
workers). Ironically, I find the Beijing dialect and especially some of the 东北 pronounciations
to be the most challenging to understand for a non-native learner of mandarin. I have little
difficulty understanding most southern pronounciations.

Totally the same for me. Although because I lived with a dongbei woman for a year, I totally
understand dongbeihua, and find that more natural the beijinghua, but I still usually opt for the
southern pronounciation.

I get the feeling that because most teachers of westerners are uppermiddle class northerners, that
way of speaking has become what is expected of westerms. But, seriously, if someone wanted to
really get into the beijing accent, and embraced it with open arms, lots of people wouldn't
understand him.

Like what you said DrZero, when in the south, I've found that not only is it annoying to use
erhua, but most southerners have a damn hard time understanding erhua when its being spoken by a
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atitarev -

When I speak with erhua (by habbit) with Southerners, Taiwanese of HKers, I only get commended for
my accent.
Perhaps, it's because I am not in China.










Ari 桑 -

I think it depends on the individual and what kind of social environment they live in. People who
live in smaller places, outside of the big cities, have alot less exposure to erhua, and so often
have a hard time understanding it. They probably understand 一点儿 and 玩儿 but probably
don't understand 水儿 屯儿 and so forth.

Oh, I have a question. Are 干吗，干吗呢，干吗呀，干啥 etc all northern things? I find
that people in the south are sometimes puzzled when I say these things, and I was never sure why.










atitarev -

Sorry, not about 干吗.

Chinese people say that foreigners are usually expected to speak either English or standard
Mandarin in China because many Chinese would, at least attempt to answer back in standard Mandarin
when speaking to foreigners. I think, it's only worth familiarising with smaller dialects for
comprehension only. Cantonese is perhaps an exception in Hong Kong/Macao, which is not only used
by the majority but also by media and is considered standard there.

I am not insisting on my point of view, some people say it's better to use Shanghaihua when in
Shanghai.










cdn_in_bj -



Quote:

Oh, I have a question. Are 干吗，干吗呢，干吗呀，干啥 etc all northern things?

干吗 is also used in Taiwan.
干啥 I recognize as being 东北话.



Quote:

I am not insisting on my point of view, some people say it's better to use Shanghaihua when in
Shanghai.

I also heard that this used to be the case but things have changed. I visited Shanghai a year ago
and everyone I encountered spoke mandarin and not only that, was extremely courteous in doing so.
Maybe things are different if one is living there vs. just visiting. In any case, I have yet to
encounter such polite taxi drivers anywhere else in China (including HK).










Ari 桑 -

I think its also just fun to do something different. In terms of shanghaihua, for sure. I went
there with my boyfriend once, and he's a beijingren, and he sometimes had a super hard time
understanding people.










atitarev -

Of course, it's fun to learn something new or different. I just think, Mandarin would be priority
#1 anywhere in China, except HK and local dialects, if you can find time and resources. Not
knowing Wu in Shanghai may be a hurdle in SOME jobs but I know there are Chinese people (I know
some personally) who live and work in Shanghai without knowing the dialect. They pick up dialectal
words and accent when they stay for some time, of course.

I heard and read a lot about Shanghai, Guangzhou and Hong Kong and have no idea about some other
large cities in the South. Do you need to speak a dialect to get a job?










Ari 桑 -

I spose it depends on the job. I'd like to get a simple job in the nightlife, working at a club or
bar. For that, I suppose localisms are great. If you want to be in big buisness, then I'm sure
standard madarin is prefered.










Lu -

I don't think foreigners are expected to speak the dialect, for any job that they would be
considered for. I'd say a foreigner who does speak the dialect, even if it's only a few words,
would be seen as a curiosity. (Even a simple phai-se (sorry) sometimes surprises people here. Wah,
you speak Taiyu! No I don't...)










anonymoose -

It is not at all necessary to speak shanghainese in Shanghai. Everyone apart from the elderly,
mostly past retirement age anyway, speaks mandarin, and many people in Shanghai are from other
areas and cannot speak shanghainese.

Having said that, IF you do speak shanghainese, particularly as a foreigner, you can have a great
time seeing how people react when you start speaking it. I can't speak much shangainese yet, but
enough to startle a few people. It is also funny sometimes when I speak shanghainese to a
外地人 by accident. They just stare at me thinking this 老外's mandarin is so crap I don't
have a clue what he's saying.












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p1234 -

I will study there this september, any schoolmates here?



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begogo -

welcome to guangzhou ,where are you from










xiaolin -

where are u from?
i also start to study there this coming september
do u have MSN/yahoo msg?
tq










gide0n -

Hello,

I will be a student in Zhongshan university this September, but I live about 3 minutes from
JinNan. Msn is blufr0st@hotmail.com if you would like to chat ;)


-Scott










p1234 -

1.I am from Hong Kong, but I haven't been guang zhou before, I am chinese, wanna meet some friends
in guang zhou
2.I have MSN
3.I added you scott










abeddila -

Hello.....i'm Abed.Actually i'm searching about the admission procedure of Jinan University as a
foreign student....is there any one here who can send the details.I want mostly the area of School
of Business, course duration, fees and other related things.....can any one help me please?


Thanks In Advance..
Best Regards

Abed Ahsan










begogo -

to xiaolin
I am not the student of jina university. I am chinese live in guangzhou.I do international

business.this days i am no so busy ,so i try to know some new friends.
my msn:dicksonlikeu@hotmail.com

to p1234
you come from hongkong ,so you can take it easy, you will acclimatize yourself to the new life.

to Abed
I try to ask my friend who studied in jinan before,but i am not sure whether i can get the
information.










xiaolin -

abbedila, u can try this link
http://hwy.jnu.edu.cn/zhaosheng/duiwai/index01.htm
i hope it can help u to find more info about jinan











begogo -

xiaolin's link is useful










xiaolin -

i hope it can help
anyone live in guangzhou?
because i'll live in guangzhou too, this coming september
i'll study in SCNU
any schoolmates here?












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ABCinChina -

Before KingSoft Powerword 2007, I was using a 2003 version which could translate traditional
characters on-screen. After upgrading to 2007, I have to click on the word and look it up in the
dictionary if it is a traditional character. (This is slower, but a lot of compound words are
missed this way since I can only look up one word at a time)

Are there any settings that can make it read traditional characters on-screen without having to
look them up in the dictionary? Thanks for any replies...



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madizi -

Still no answer. I'm interested too.......










ABCinChina -

Since my Chinese reading skills are somewhat poor, as a temporary solution I copy the whole
paragraph (traditional characters) then paste it to this website to translate it to simplified.

http://www.khngai.com/chinese/tools/convert.php

But this is pretty tedious...










gato -

If you are reading website, you can try http://www.popjisyo.com/WebHint/Portal_e.aspx
instead.

Or install http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries_zh_TW.php

Or go back to PowerWord 2003.










madizi -

Does this mean that KP 2007 doesn't have a function for reading Traditional characters?










gato -

Don't know. But what advantage is there to installing Powerword 2007 over 2003-2006?










ABCinChina -

With KSPW2007, you can read many traditional character since they are the same as the simplified
ones. It does this on-screen by pointing out the word. However, if it is a traditional character,
you must look it up in the dictionary which is only a click away.

The 2007 version is way better than the 2003 version so there is no way I'm going back. You can
add your own words, it has pinyin, pronunciations, and the dictionary is much better.












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JimmySeal -

l think it's pretty unmistakably 取. It means “take.”



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Those who are familiar with Japan know that Japanese often have (usually meaningless/ irrelevant)
English phrases printed on things simply for aesthetic values. I think this example here is a
Western equivalent. I therefore don't try to guess what character the drawing could possibly
originates from, but the direction the topmost stroke runs precludes it being 取.










leah1 -

Thank you very much for all your answers. It's very kind. Leah










Quest -

It's a badly written 取.










roddy -

Maybe it's just because it's the first one I got into my head, but I don't see why it can't be a
badly written 丙。 Looks as close to that as to 取 to me.










leah1 -

Hi Roddy,
What does the symbol that you think it may be mean in English? Is it a more apropriate work than
"take"?
Thanks










roddy -

not really, see here.










adrianlondon -

It could be someone writing "E T R" and trying to make it look Chinese-y.










imron -

I really don't see 取 at all, are the people that see 取 basing that on what it looks like in
seal-script or something?










JimmySeal -

Nothing to do with seal script. The first thing I noticed was the 又 on the right, though the
first stroke has a blip at the beginning and ends too soon.
And for the 耳 part, the second stroke starts way too far down and the other strokes are messy,
but it's recognizable.

Here's the plate again, and I've overlaid it in MS paint to show how it looks like 取:


A Japanese person in my office also immediately identified it as 取 right now. It couldn't be 丙
because the 冂 would be split in half and bent on one side, there's an extra stroke on the left
side, and a vertical line down the middle.

Then again it could just be someone trying to make ETR look like 取, which reminds me of this:
eekanji












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Hopefully this will help those attending Tsinghua's Chinese Language Program in the Autumn or
Spring!

Registration for the Autumn Term is from Sep 11-13.

The Autumn term is from Sep 18 to Jan 20,2008.
The Spring term is from Feb 25 to June 29.

There is a 1 month "winter vacation" from Jan 20 to Feb 25.



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Registration for the Autumn Term is from Sep 11-13

Applepie, what do you mean by that?
Are you saying that the registration period for Autumn 2007 is only open between Sep 11-13? But if
we are applying from overseas there is no way of making sure that our application is received by
the tsinghua faculties between those periods?!?!?

Anyway, I'm planning to study in tsinghua from beginning of 2008 for one year. I haven't sent off
my application yet. Can I send off my application whenever I like or do I have to wait for the
"registration period" to open (if there is such thing).

I read somewhere that the cut off date for classes beginning next year is around December. Do
mandarin class enrolments fill up quickly? How many months should I apply in advance to get a
place in tsinghua to begin my studies next year? I'm applying from Australia and just want to
study normal mandarin classes.










adrianlondon -



Quote:

Are you saying that the registration period for Autumn 2007 is only open between Sep 11-13?

I think what that's trying to say is that you must be on campus, having already applied
successfully for the course, by those dates as that's when you're tested and assigned a class. The
process is also called registration - don't confuse this with application (also known as
registration!).










applepie42 -

sandeehoo,

My apologies for the confusion. adrianlondon is correct, those are the dates for the accepted
students to register on campus. The application deadlines as listed on their website is quoted
below.



Quote:

Applicants who plan to start studying at the Spring Semester must submit their application before
December 15th and those who plan to start studying at the Autumn Semester must submit their
application before June 15th.

You can send in your application whenever you get everything ready, as long as it is before the
deadline. I sent my application in March for the June deadline, but they didn't make the decision
until end of May. Your chances of getting accepted are pretty high; when I called, they said that
they accept everyone who applies and that no one was rejected.

Hopefully that helps!

-applepie












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Hi,

I am living in beijing, my english is poor, but I want to improve it. However I don't have many
opportunities to speak it, and I don't have a good teacher. So .. I have a good idea, we can help
each other in the future, my chinese is good, i think your english is good too. If you agree with
my thinking, then contact me, my MSN account is "acis2008@hotmail.com", we can spend the weekends
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HashiriKata -



Quote:

I know just fine what it means in English. And I'm pretty sure everyone here knows what it means
in English, and that it can be used without "of," so it made no sense that you would respond to
johnmck's post by telling us all something we already know.

So, are you in effect saying that "If JimmySeal knows something then everyone else should already
know it, and everyone here should therefore ask for your permission before posting" ?



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JimmySeal -

Certainly not. But it appears that johnmck knew full well what he was talking about and that the
original poster knew that "on the edge" can be used without "of," so I am curious whom you thought
you were trying to inform by saying what you did.










HashiriKata -



Quote:

so I am curious whom you thought you were trying to inform by saying what you did.

It's normal for people here to want to contribute, even if what they contribute may not be new to
everyone. Now, who are you to tell people what they can post and what they can't? You appear to
have too much time on your hands, Jimmy, and I'm sure you could make better use of it than keep
responding in circle here.










JimmySeal -

Yea I probably do have too much time on my hands and I'm not here to tell people what they can and
can't post. But what you have said so far doesn't explain why you quoted johnmck in your post.










on_the_edge -

Hey guys there is no need to fight!










HashiriKata -



Quote:

I'm not here to tell people what they can and can't post.

So what have you been doing in this thread???




Quote:

But what you have said so far doesn't explain why you quoted johnmck in your post.

This is not the only thing you don't understand. Don't you even understand this???










JimmySeal -

No, I don't. Please explain.










HashiriKata -



Quote:

No, I don't. Please explain.

Whatever I may say may not be as good as you re-reading the whole thread, and we both should now
let others have their say.










JimmySeal -

I have read it several times and am not any closer to understanding your motives. I guess I will
have to remain in ignorance.










adrianlondon -

If it's any help, I don't understand what's going on either. Very surreal.












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get your arse (and your personal ads) over to thatsbj, Shadowdh!

My arse is firmly over there in the forums but not so much in the personals...

I will be there on the 27 Aug at about 15.10 (if the flight isnt delayed or something)... time
seems to be flying now and I have soooo many things to do...



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y3miii -

when do i have to be there?

when is the actually start date of the Fall semester????

thank you,










PinkxMinkx -

hey, i think enrollment is on Sept 2nd? *correct me if im wrong please!*

so , almost a month! i still have to book tickets and start studying some chinese, haven't touched
a textbook in over 2 years!

has everyone sorted out accommodation yet? the idea of homestay is becoming less and less
appealing as the days draw closer...










cdn_in_bj -



Quote:

i still have to book tickets

I suggest you get on that, pronto. If I'm not mistaken, Auguest/September is when flights book up
real quick (both going out of and coming into China). January/February is pretty bad too (from
experience).










PinkxMinkx -

oh , im waiting on my credit card to come through so i can get free insurance.
why is august/September peak ? i can understand feb cos of chinese new year.
in australia, uni has already started so the international students rush has come and gone
already..










cdn_in_bj -

Ah, yes, the start of the school year will depend by region. In Canada and the US, many
universities and colleges start in early September. This explains the hordes of students leaving
China for Canada/US.

But that doesn't explain the rush coming in? Or maybe it's not as bad as they say? Do middle
schools in China also start in September? Surely there can't be that many foreigners coming to
China for school!










terran261 -

Hey, sorry to stick my head into an ongoing conversation but I too will be going to BeiDa in the
Fall.

I am a Seattlite, born and raised, and I will be coming via the Trans-Siberian Railroad, so
hopefully will have some stories to tell.

I will probably be in intermediate classes, but I'm not entirely sure at this point.

I look forward to seeing you guys in class!










PinkxMinkx -

hey terran261,
the trans Siberia railway, does that mean u have started your trip already or about to start? my
parents are originally from the xinjiang province which is on that line i think so I ve been there
before, enjoy your trip !










terran261 -

I have already begun my trip, sort of, but I am in Europe. The actual trans-Siberian only takes 7
days, so I don't even reach Moscow until August 20th.

Should be an adventure though, and thanks for the luck, given my zero Russian language knowledge I
may need it!










PinkxMinkx -

hi all,
just bumping up this thread as i see it has been moved back to page 2.

is anyone in beijing yet? any tips re weather?
what are you all doing for accommodation ?












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And it's precisely because I had no exposure to these sounds and that I was hearing through an
American "filter" that I had these problems, and I really believe that no amount of listening to
dialogue would have fixed this. But within a few days of spending one hour per day on the FSI P&R
Module, I had no trouble at all with pronunciation, tones, transcribing pinyin, or anything
related.

I agree that for individual sounds you may need some training. However in my view just reading the
pinyin saying that 中 is prounounced zhong does not help in my view. You need to read
explanations on how the sounds are formed in order to get them right. However individual sounds
are not really that important in my view. For tonal languages getting the intonation right is much
more crucial, and for learning that nothing helps but listening and repeating a lot of sentences.
The reason why I dont like tone marks is that I feel they interfer with what you are hearing. In
my view, it is much easier to learn a cantonese sentence by listening to it and imitating it
rather than analyzing the tones in it and worrying that you are getting the tones right on every
syllable.



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You need to read explanations on how the sounds are formed in order to get them right.

I would say you have to hear them. And for some sounds, which you don't have in your native
language, it's not a bad idea to look up how they are formed, in case you struggle. For example,
English natives often have a problem with the U sound in "女", or the throatish H, like in 很.
So were you struggle depends really where you come from.

For the perfection, just keep in mind they most Mandarin speakers are not native speakers
themselfs and also may speak them poorly. That's not an excuse not to learn them well, but you
won't get beaten, or even get "The Look" if you don't get them out perfect.

Everybody learns of course individually, for me tone learning out of context would be too abstract
and I wouldn't remember it anyway. So I just listen and copy the melody of the sentence.

But it's also up to what you like to learn. Learning must be fun, so just do the fun parts that
you really want to do. With fun you learn 3 times the speed. Without the fun you probably learn
never.

Another point, I never think Mandarin is "difficult". Maybe some parts are. But I still prefer to
think "I can do it". Once you think it's "difficult" you have your first internal brain block
excuse not to progress, because it's soooo difficult.












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simonf -

Hi,

I'd like to learn some songs to help my Mandarin (I'm at a beginner level), but after following
the links posted here it seems that most recommended songs are pretty cheesy. Can someone
recommend songs that have music at the level of an intelligent indie-rock song in English, eg, Red
Hot Chili Peppers? I probably can't handle complicated lyrics now, but at least I want to find
some music I can enjoy.

Thanks,
Simon



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gato -

You can try 崔健, who's one of China's earliest rockers.

花房姑娘
http://cqdzhy.net/soft/mp3/flowerGirl.mp3
Music
http://mp3.baidu.com/m?tn=baidump3ly...944&lm=-1&lf=3
Lyrics

一无所有
http://218.22.166.104:729/listen/ywsy_cuijian.mp3
Music
http://mp3.baidu.com/m?tn=baidump3ly...944&lm=-1&lf=3
Lyrics

Or try some songs by 老狼 (Old Wolf), who's much younger. His songs might be categorized as
neo-folk.

睡在我上铺的兄弟
http://www.shaodong.gov.cn/info/edit...82395532788.rm
Music
http://mp3.baidu.com/m?tn=baidump3ly...944&lm=-1&lf=3
Lyrics

同桌的你
http://ctthb.stu.com.cn/music/xiaoyu...ngzhuodeni.mp3
Music
http://mp3.baidu.com/m?tn=baidump3ly...944&lm=-1&lf=3
Lyrics

See also some earlier threads on Chinese alternative music:
http://www. /showth...ighlight=indie
An amazing indie/pop female singer 陳綺貞

http://www. /showth...ighlight=indie
Indie fans: 灰燼周三 (灰烬周三)










simonlaing -

I haven't got the links to the mp3 s but baidu is pretty good for finding them.

The one singer who I like a lot is Xue wei. He is a bit old but his songs are good. They were on
the sound track to the Chinese Sex and the city show. 我好想好想谈连爱。 虚伪

there's also a ball guy that rocks quite a lot. He does chinese versions of aerosmith and others.
Short fat ball guy, you should see him if you view the record stores.

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��ｎ＇ｔ　ｌｅａｒｎ＇ｔ　ｔｈｅｍ　ｗｅｌｌ　ｅｎｏｕｇｈ　ｔｏ　��
�ｏ　Ｋａｒａｏｋｅ　ｔｏ　ｔｈｅｍ．　

ｓｏｍｅｔｉｍｅｓ　ｔｈｅｙ　ｓｅｌｌ　ｍｉｘ　ｄｖｄ＇ｓ　ｏｆ　�
��ｒｔｉｓｔｓ　ｓｏ　ｙｏｕ　ｃａｎ　ｓａｍｐｌｅ　ｔｈｅｍ．　Ｔ��
�ａｔ　ｓｏｍｅｔｉｍｅｓ　ｗｏｒｋｓ．　



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��ｉｃｈｉｅ　ｏｒ　ｒｉ　ｓｈｅｎ　ｑｉ．　ｅａｓｉｅｒ　ｆｏｒ　��
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Ｇｏｏｄ　ｌｕｃｋ，　
ｈａｖｅ　ｆｕｎ，
Ｓｉｍｏｎ：）










Huang Jialuo -

Hey Simon,

I don't know if you should rely on lyrics for improving your chinese. Though it may seem helpful
and fun, I have been told by many people (especially chinese people), that when chinese people
sing, they tend to change the actual tone of the words so it adjusts to the rhythm. Even I have
noticed when hearing chinese songs, and also you can hear it in House of Flying Daggers, when Xiao
Mei (Zhang Ziyi) sings in front of Feng (the japanese guy) - she doesn't use the correct tones for
the words. Hence, learning from chinese songs will not likely help you as much as you think or
want, when practicing words and how to pronounce them.

This post is not to discourage you, but to warn you.










venture160 -

you can also try Xu Wei, one of my favorites 许巍

ｍｙ　ｆａｖｏｒｉｔｅ　ｓｏｎｇ　ｂｙ　ｈｉｍ　ｉｓ　夏日的风　“S
ummer Breeze"

午后一场雨让这个城市更清爽。。。。。

and my favorite part is the very last line... 你让我。。。恍若隔世










elina -

I also like 许巍 very much.

蓝莲花 - 许巍
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTvNgeP4Kh8

礼物 - 许巍
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V10r1AE-Z08

曾經的你 - 许巍
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb880...elated&search=

那一年 - 许巍
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQIwRYUTg98

我的秋天 - 许巍
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewjrYcD2G5M

More of his songs:
http://www.haoting.com/special/msp_307.htm










tallynole -

I like Hang Hong a lot, as well as a mongolian lady that goes by the name of "si Qin Ge Ri li",
both have really nice songs that i enjoy listening to and are not too cheesy.










rezaf -

I think the main problem of the chinese songs is that the chinese have not yet discovered there is
something called the minor key. all of their songs are just toooo happy










Lu -

You haven't discovered the 'my love has left me/died/is terminally ill/married to someone else'
genre yet?










rezaf -

please write their chinese names. i want to listen to them.












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